By Erin K Costello
In late 2016 I was introduced to the anti-vaccine (AV) community on-line, and more precisely on Facebook. It was a multi-step journey to where I landed; I first found Food Babe, then I quickly found the Facebook group Banned By Food Babe, which then introduced me to SciBabe (LOVE her!), who then led me to Kate Tietje, the Modern Alternative Mama, or as I’ll refer to here, MAM. It was through MAM that I learned about this fringe AV and anti-MSM (mainstream medicine) movement on the internet, though, mostly on Facebook. Ever since then I have become more and more involved with those on Facebook who work and argue tirelessly and on their own free time to beat down the lies and misinformation spread by AVers. Throughout the past few years I have often attempted to explain to friends and family the urgency of needing to prevent this mindset from spreading, as well as the dangers AVers will likely cause. Every attempt fell on deaf ears, though, I can not blame them. If someone had tried to explain it to me years ago I would’ve likely stared back with the same glossed over look while thinking “Erin is going a little mad, there’s no way there is enough of these people to pose a threat.” It took a few measles outbreaks, particularly the one in the northwest and the one in NY, to get their attention, as well as the media’s attention. This is my attempt to capitalize on this gotten attention. While I have you all “here,” let me fill you in on the things I have learned about AVers.. Measles was likely the first danger they caused because the disease is highly contagious. Sadly, this illness is only one of many threats and dangers they could bring to the public, and especially to children.
Before I begin to explain AVers in general, I should give a brief introduction to some of the public bobble-heads that are leading this movement. These people contribute greatly to the spread of this movement, though the people who make most of the outrageous claims are ordinary and average internet users like you and I. I will not be naming all of them since there are too many to list. I will instead keep the list, which is in no particular order, to the ones we encounter regularly.
Like I said, I am going to keep these explanations brief. If you wish to learn more about Larry you can visit our “Larry Cook” pages under archives or follow this link here, here, and here. As well as an article that was just released by the Daily Beast.
Larry owns the “Stop Mandatory Vaccination” brand which consists of several websites (most notably this one), a Facebook page, and one of the largest Facebook AV groups with over 153,000 members currently. Almost all of his posts and efforts are spent on pushing products on his followers, selling his own creations, and using dead babies to encourage members to donate to his several GoFundMe campaigns. On his website he tells readers how they can donate to him personally and makes it known the funds will be used for his salary or any other way he sees fit.
Brandy or “billboard Brandy,” is the person behind Learn The Risk, which exists as a website ending in .org, as well as a Facebook page and group. She is a former pharmaceutical rep for Merck, and has zero medical or scientific back-round. I can’t be sure if she’s also just another shill or if she also believes some of the nonsense. In my opinion I think it may be both, though mostly the former. If you have ever seen a billboard in your city warning you about the dangers of vaccines, or if the billboard claims vaccines killed Nick Cantone’s son, it was most likely paid for by “Billboard Brandy.”
Erin Elizabeth at Health Nut News (maiden name Erin Finn)
Erin is married or otherwise betrothed to Dr. Joseph Mercola. Both of them are almost certainly in this for a profit. Their on-line stores make this obvious. Besides running their cons, they mostly just post AV fake news stories to their pages. Erin is the one of the two more active among AVers in general. She has a Facebook group called HOLISTIC LIVES MATTER (Erin Elizabeth from Health Nut News), where she will often spread her fake news and use as a platform to abuse, dox, and spread hateful lies about people who caused her to look a bit like an idiot through a comment debate. She is oddly easy to smack-down in regular “mic-drop” fashion.
Hillary has a past full of failed attempts to become a star. There are old videos of Hillary acting, and I use that term loosely, with a local theater group, a family friend of Hillary’s posted to some of us in a private PV (pro-vaccination) Facebook group that Hillary once tried to make a name for herself on YouTube uploading work-out videos (it was said that Hillary even exercised “dramatically”), and that Hillary’s son does not have autism. For granted this family friend is not qualified professionally to make or break an autism diagnosis, but that isn’t what she was trying to tell us. She simply said the family never received such a diagnosis on her son, but that her son does experience some gut issues, which also run very rampant in the father’s family. Mind you, I don’t know how much of this is true. What I do know is that no one understands why it is that Hillary has achieved any popularity. Her first video she posted to her Facebook page-turned “organization” called Crazymothers, was actually pretty good. One would even come away from watching the video believing Hillary had some talent. Picture a suburban, white, entitled, affluent version of Slam Poetry. That was her first video. However, every single video since (and I do mean EVERY single video) have been horrible cringe-filled attempts to re-create her first video or to relive her days in the theater. There’s one video she made recently that left me wondering if she has a child on Ritalin and if that child would be running short on medication for that month.
Kate Tietje, Modern Alternative Mama, MAM (or as we call her, Ktits).
Kate is a mommy blogger who is best known for writing that she loved her son more than her daughter, She is also famous for failing to seek medical attention for her toddler son for a week while he had a broken arm, as well as selling her tonics from her website. SciBabe summed her up best in a blog post of hers where she described MAM by saying, “If she had a bigger following, she’d be the most dangerous mommy blogger on the internet.” MAM is probably the most “Jim Jones-like” of the AV figures. This is easily noticeable through her extreme narcissism and constant hypocrisy. Whether she intends to or not, she if forming a cult. She runs the persecuted “us vs them” technique almost flawlessly. She is working on enhanced isolation for her followers be creating her own social media platform as an attempt to avoid censorship and trolls, and runs several weekly posts directing her followers, readers, and group members to cut ties with family and friends who don’t support their “natural health” choices for their families. She claims to have reached her choice to not vaccinate through the means of science, yet then says she will never vaccinate her kids or buy into MSM regardless of what the future brings. Any analytical mind would never close their future choices off from new information as it became available. Only someone with a bias or personal feelings on the matter would deprive themselves or their loved ones from possible new information that could reveal a better healthier option. In her Facebook group, Modern Alternative Mamas!, she has rules for the almost 25,000 members to adhere to. One such rule is that no one is allowed to suggest OTC medications, MSM Rxs, visiting an E.R., or calling to speak to or see a medical doctor. Doing so will result in that person being reprimanded in one way or another and eventually lead them to being banned from the group. She follows this up with saying that in cases of emergency, it is ok to suggest seeing a medical professional but it has to be worded properly. You can’t say “ER NOW!” You can only say, “To treat at home, I would ______. If you see signs and symptoms like _______, that would warrant a call or visit to the doctor.” This rule applies always, regardless of what is in the afflicted person or child’s best interest, their health and/or suffering does not matter. Only MAM’s agenda matters. For additional posts regarding MAM simply go through our blog posts. Every few posts or so we are inspired to address something from her.
T. Matthew Phillips
TMP is a shitty lawyer who tries to sue for vaccine rights as though having to vaccinated kids to attend public school is a civil rights violation. He has yet to win and recently lost a civil case against Facebook on behalf of his “fan-girl,” Christine Scarborough. These two are part of the “abolish vaccines” crowd, the ones who do not believe vaccines should be allowed or legal for that matter because “there’s no such thing as a safe vaccine.”
The Vaxxed Team
Here we have:
Andrew Wakefield: the disgraced British ex-doctor that started the claim that the MMR vaccine leads to autism.
Del Bigtree: Worked on TV shows as a camera man and now makes mock documentaries like Vaxxed.
Polly Tommy: The annoying twatopotamus behind and in Vaxxed with the British accent.
Honorable mentions are known figures in the AV movement though we haven’t had much experience or interaction with them, therefor we have no additional information to add about them besides what is easily found on-line. This list includes but is not limited to,
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, Dr. Suzanne Humphries, Dr. Bob Sears, Brian Hooker, Meryl Dorey, David Wolfe, Megan Redshaw/Heimer, Jenny McCarthy, and Robert F Kennedy Jr.
There are also a few wannabe famous AV shills that aren’t anywhere near important enough to mention but not for their lack of trying. There’s an older woman who claims to be a nurse and wears way too much make-up, in what appears to be an effort to cover up sun damaged skin, who goes by the name Denise Marie. Another alleged nurse named Erin Marie RN, and one woman who I am only listing because she makes undignified, exploitative, embarrassing, public Facebook videos of her daughter and her daughter’s autism. Her name is Heather Turano and she claims to be a “warrior mom” because she cries on camera that her daughter will need constant round the clock care for the rest of her life even though she doesn’t need such care. I do not know the extent or specifics of her daughter’s afflictions though she was in high school until mom pulled her out recently, and she appears to be fully capable of at least surviving without nursing care, round the clock or otherwise.
I made a point to mention the names I mentioned because they have been or may discussed in future posts.
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE SCIENCE?
If you were to read my Facebook posts on my profile and you saw me say things like, “walk this path…...on this journey…..enlighten others…...educate others…...spreading the message…..it gets easier…….God doesn’t make mistakes……..we are born perfect…….let God speak through you…….don’t let them divide and conquer….stand your ground…...etc…. “ You would probably think I was discussing religion or some version of a spiritual belief system of mine. These are all common phrases of encouragement AV will post to one another in an effort to conform them, recruit them, or convince them to remain against vaccinations when they express doubt. They will also parrot all the reasons, sometimes verbatim to one another, on why vaccines were not and are not needed, and how vaccines are nothing more than instruments of harm.
REASONS FOR REFUSING TO VACCINATE
I could go through and elaborate on every ridiculous reasons avers give for not vaccinating but the list is extensive and my attention span is not. Instead, I have elaborated on the ones first listed, and simply listed the rest of the excuses. The reason why I chose to elaborate on the ones I did is because I am able to provide extreme examples and/or my own personal experiences with AVers and these excuses, or examples I have heard from colleagues. The remainder of claims and beliefs listed are more common with the usual scripting by AVers. I have provided embedded links for those who wish to read more on these listed as well as why they are false.
HOW VACCINES WERE NEVER NEEDED AND NEVER PREVENTED DISEASE
Different diseases have different claims assigned to them on why they aren’t as present today as they were before vaccinations became available. Though, one universal excuse they give is hygiene and sanitation. The thing is though, this isn’t exactly false. Both hygiene and especially sanitation and other upgrades in sewage removal made an impact on the prevention of disease spreading. And even thought most AVers distrust MSM today, they also accredit modern medicine with preventing as many deaths from such diseases, which again, isn’t exactly false. The Black Plague killed about half of Europe’s population in the past, though, hardly anyone dies from the plague today. The thing is though, not all diseases are spread through our waste or through touch. The flu and measles viruses are largely airborne, they spread through the air. There are some diseases where sewage waste removal and washing one’s hands will largely prevent the spread of, but this protection is usually temporary and is not at all guaranteed. Not like the prevention from a vaccine is anyways. Receiving a vaccine for a specific illness such as the flu may not always prevent the flu, but in those cases where a person still caught the flu the vaccine has shown to lessen the duration and severity of the illness. I don’t want to get bogged down in disputing every ridiculous claim of theirs that I list, I want this post to be about their outrageous actions and ludicrous beliefs rather than about their stupidity. Instead, I’ll provide links for those who wish to read examples of how idiotic their claims really are. For more information on the effects vaccines had on disease rates you can click here.
VACCINES ARE PART OF THE NWO, AGENDA 21, ILLUMINATI, ROCKEFELLER/SOROS WORLD DOMINATION PLANS
This is how vaccines have become a coveted conspiracy theory (CT) tenet Some believe the NWO or Agenda 21 are behind vaccinations as a way to dumb down the population and make them easier to handle or control as well as more susceptible to suggestions or orders. Chem-trails have even been accused of being vaccines rather than whatever else they believe them to be. When it comes to the Illuminati, the Rockefellers, or Soros/Clinton, the nefarious purpose behind vaccinations is usually to cause sterilization. This has been my experience with such claims though you can never really predict what a Ctist is going to claim next. They aren’t exactly consistent.
PHARMA CREATES CUSTOMERS FOR LIFE & CAN’T BE SUED/PHARMA PAYS BONUSES TO DOCTORS
AVers love to claim that all government agencies are out to use us as cash cows. The thing is, no business would last if the purposely made a harmful product that didn’t do what it was supposed to do, and did this on purpose. Americans, and even our elected officials would go after pharma, regardless of how big they were, if they purposely and knowingly injured or killed our children. Pharma also can’t make any money if they release a harmful or defective product. Maybe it’s people’s shit diets, heavy drinking, and lack of exercise that makes them lifelong pharma customers.
Pharma can be sued, even outside of the NVICP, aka “vaccine court.”
Doctors are sometimes given a bonus for having a certain number of patients UTD (up to date) on vaccinations, and this bonus came from health insurance companies, not pharma. Doctors can also receive bonuses for other examples of being a good doctor and keeping their patients healthy. I covered this in a blog post about a year ago for those who would like to learn more about it.
THE PACKAGE INSERTS
Every AVer uses the package inserts as an argument. The thing is though is that they are not medical documents written from a medical perspective. They are legal documents written from a legal perspective. Every death that occurred during the trial to a person in the study has to be included in the write up on these inserts. Whether the trial drug caused the death, a car accident did, or they were murdered by a spouse, the death has to be included as an adverse event in the inserts. Adverse events are not adverse affects though.
Though there have been a few studies that loosely show shedding of some vaccines can occur, this wasn’t shown t be very vaccine, in fact only a couple, and the chance of shedding was extremely minimal and shown to be possible through fecal matter. I’d like to also note that if vaccines shed, and most people vaccinate, then the majority of people who don’t vaccinate would have been sick with numerous VPD (vaccine preventable diseases) before the age of 5. Also, if vaccines shed, and the majority of people vaccinate, wouldn’t that mean that the viruses being spread are not the “wild” virus but are in fact the laboratory ones? Which leads me to my next point…
VACCINES ARE FULL OF POISON AND THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM GIVEN TODAY
They are not full of poison. There is no elemental mercury or aluminum in vaccines. As for the amount given today, this has changed for two reasons. 1) Because like most things in science, discoveries further our advancement and and create new opportunities for such things like vaccinations for illnesses we previously didn't know how to vaccinate for. 2), For some vaccinations it has been learned over time that we can more safely administer them in several doses spanned over a certain amount of time rather than give the vaccine all at once. Doing this also causes less of a pathogen as well as other inactive ingredients to be used in total for that specific diseases vaccine.
VPD ARE EASILY TREATED AND VACCINES ARE UNAVOIDABLY UNSAFE
Most VPD are highly treatable and not likely to cause permanent harm or death. However, vitamin A, C, and essential oils are not going to provide treatment. That being said, kids still suffer through these diseases. Since when did death become the only unacceptable consequence for our children but suffering is an acceptable allowance for parents to witness their children experience? Many of these illness are still not easitly treatable even if they are highly treatable. Many will often requre a hospital admission, missed school, lost income for the parent, and end up costing our economy unnecessary costs.
As for their avoidable safety, everything in life is unavoidably unsafe. This is also a legal determination made through the eyes of the law, not a medical assessment made through the eyes of medicine.
VACCINES AREN'T MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE/JESUS WASN'T VACCINATED
Never mind the fact the Bible was written by man and not by God, there are thousands of things in our life today that weren't mentioned in the Bible. Antibiotics weren't mentioned. Does this mean you will allow yourself to die from infection? Pineapple pizza wasn't mentioned in the Bible either. Does that mean we all have to suffer through life without the citrusy mouth-watering explosion in our mouths with every cheesy bite? I certainly hope not!
MOST INFANT DEATHS HAPPEN AFTER VACCINATION
This is kind of true though only because infant deaths can correlate with the current vaccine schedule even though one does not cause the other. Infants are vaccinated for difference vaccines at birth, 2 months of age, 4 months of age, 6 months of age, and 12 months of age during their first year of life. SIDS deaths are classified as infant deaths because theey occur before one year of age. If Avers believe vaccines are responsible whenever a baby dies within weeks to a month after vaccinations,, then that leaves at least 4 months out of the first 12 months that will occur after a vaccination. This means a quarter of infants who die from SIDS would be believed to have been caused by vaccines simply because it's a statistical liklihood that some will pass during these 4 months.
MSM WAS BEHIND THE TUSKAGEE EXPERIMENT, LIES ABOUT TOBACCO SAFETY, AND THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED.
MSM CAN'T BE TRUSTED SINCE THEY HAVE YET TO DO A DOUBLE BLIND VACCINE VS UN-VACCINATED TRUE PLACEBO STUDY
Much like how you can't connect two magnets together at their south poles or their north poles, you can't connect both these claims as being true or as evidence that supports either claim.
Though, it is true that the Tuskagee experiment did happen, and that tobacco companies paid off doctors to lie and claim smoking was not dangerous for your health, it does not mean that all MSM, pharma companies or health related governing bodies are lying to you at the detriment of your own health and life. Simply stating that it happened once or twice before in different periods by different organizations does not make it a given that it will continue to happen. Additionally, the fact that there isn't a double blind vaccinated vs un-vaccinated study done using a true placebo is proof that there are ethics in medical and scientific communities that are adhered to. This is because giving the vaccine to one subject group and then exposing them to the vaccine specific disease is allowed and expected, but giving another subject group a true placebo and then exposing them to the illness in question would be highly unethical, dangerous, and possibly even fatal. Instead of a true placebo in these studies what is typically used is an older version of a vaccine for the illness in question. A study to see which vaccine is the most effective is ethical. A study to see how effective vaccinating is in general by comparison to a subject group intentionally deprived of any vaccine AND purposely exposed to the disease in question is not ethical. The argument that MSM is dismissive enough to intentionally or uncaringly cause the deaths of some people, but that they aren't dismissive or uncaring enough to cause the deaths of some people kind of collapses on itself.
DOCTORS SPEND ABOUT 3 HOURS LEARNING ABOUT VACCINATIONS
This claim was bred in pure narcissism for AVers to believe they are better educated than doctors. About two years ago I came across the routine rebuttal to this ridiculous claim by AVers. However, I'd like to elaborate on this common copy/paste response before I paste it below by adding that before someone enters medical school they have to take an exam called the MCAT. This is to test applicants on their fundamental knowledge in all related areeas of math and sciences. This isn't basic knowledge that one would receive in high school mind you, this is knowledge one would seek out, study, and learn throughout four years of college. In other words, an applicant must first go to college, study and suffeciently learn related areas of math and science before even being accepted into medical school. This means that students who are just beginning medical school already have a knowledge in areas of vaccine science that dwarfs that of those who are mommy bloggers. Believe it or not, simply having had logged hours on GoogleU makes you an expert on nothing. Here's the response paste,
"You start off learning physics chemistry and biology. Physics shows you how individual subatomic particles work and interact. Chemistry shows you how these interactions between particles result in chemical reactions and explains the rules these reactions follow. Biology shows you how these reactions work together to allow a cell to function it also goes into how groups of cells can talk to tech other chemically and form tissues. Next come biochemistry, molecular cell biology, organic chemistry, genetics, microbiology and histology. Biochemistry focuses on those reactions most important to life, while organic chemistry gives you more in depth knowledge of the rules that those reactions are governed by, building on what you learned in physics. Molecular cell biology focuses on all of the interactions within a single cell. Genetics is self explanatory, how DNA and genes work which is covered in several of these other classes but here you stress every chemical and physical detail. Microbiology teaches you about microorganisms and their role in the environment as well as their internal chemistry. Histology takes what you learned about a single cell in biology and shows you how many cells working together can form a tissue and how tissues can form an organ. From here we move on to: embryology anatomy, neuro-manatomy, physiology, and regulatory physiology. Embryology teaches us how we developed from fertilization onward and sets the stage for Anatomy which teaches you how the structures you learned about in embryology which are formed from the tissues you learned about in biology/histology function together physically and on a macro level. Neuroanatomy is the same thing as anatomy but given the complexity of the nervous system is a whole class in it's own right. Physiology teaches how those organs communicate and interact on a chemical level drawing from all the chemistry knowledge you now have and regulatory physiology specifically focuses on the signaling pathways that are most important. Ok so NOW you start learning actual medicine: pathology, pharmacology, clinical systems: pathology takes what you learned about anatomy and histology and how things work and starts to show you what happens if things in those systems start going wrong. It builds on what you learned in microbiology and genetics as well. This is where you learn about infectious bacteria, virus and prions, autoimmune disease, genetic disorders, metabolic disease and all manner of other ailments. You learn the inner chemical and physical workings of these diseases and how they effect the body function. Pharmacology teaches you how introduction of particular chemicals to the body can either increase or decrease the activity of the pathways you learned about in physiology. You learn that it is impossible to introduce a new chemical pathway to the body, only modify the functions of the ones that are there. Pretty much all pharmaceuticals are based on this notion. Finally in clinical systems you learn how to piece Anatomy, physiology, pathology and pharmacology together with your physical exam (physical exam is another class) to look at a patient and interpret what you see and combine it with the data from lab tests to synthesize a diagnosis and provide the proper treatment. After you have mastered all of that, congratulations you still have two more years of medical school to go, rotating in hospitals to get practical experience before going into a residency for 3-10 years to get further training in a specialty."
DOCTORS ARE ALL UNEDUCATED IDIOTS AND NURSES ARE NINJAS
I often wonder if AV parents will or do also study the law if and when they find themselves or a family member having to attend court. Whether it be family court, civil court, or criminal court, do they insist on being the only one who will truly work on their own or a loved one's defense therefore no one else should be trusted. If the actual lawyer suggests the person appearing take a plea, or agree to terms, does that make the lawyer an immediate idiot for not believiing the person can overcome whatever the appearance is for therefore they can't accurately represent that person? If an AV parent were to need a triple bypass surgery, would they agree to let me perform the surgery simply because I assured them of the hours of reading I did on heart surgery and the dozens of YouTube videos I watched of heart surguries? Or is it only in medicine, and only on behalf of their kids or on their own behalf knowing they were vaccinated in the past that they insist on having anything but the best of care and attention? Since when did actively seeking the worst possible care for your children become the something for paretns to do?
Ninja nurses are nurses who, allegedly, wait for a perfect opportunity to sneak in a quick vaccine jab without the parents knowing or seeing them do this. This doesn't happen, at least not intentionally. I don't doubt that there have been times when a transfer of information fails to happen between shifts or between different hospital units, causing a person or newborn to be vaccinated against the parents' wishes. This is likely because most people do not refuse the vaccines and some vaccines, at certain times of admission for certain patients, are a part of standardized health care procedures and are automatically ordered. There isn't anything sinster behind administering or attempting to administer these injections. And, can I just add, imagine you are an overworked, underpaid nurse. Imagine yourself as this nurse after having been talked down to by a doctor on staff, and being treated like garbage by some of your patients. Imagine you then find yourself being accused of deliberately ignoring orders in order to undermine a parent and injure a newborn because...well....because "pharma." Imagine as this is happening the mother then begins to quiz you on your medical knowledge, or rather your knowledge on things that are based in pseudoscience. Imagine the mom dares you to list vaccine ingredients as though this were a daily mantric list you read every day before every shift, much like she has read and memorized as her personal tenet, and on top of that the list is largely false. With behaviors like this, of course people will look at avers like they are insane.
BUT.....VAERS/NVICP (VACCINE DEATHS ARE COMMON)
VAERS is a self reporting platform regarding vaccine injury. Reports are not followed up on by VAERS and anything can be reported. The NVICP is the court that hears arguments regarding vaccine injury. AVers will commonly point out the NVICP has paid out around $4 billion in damages since 1987. However, they ignore other relevant data. According to NVICP, from January 1, 2006 to December 31, 2017 there were 3,454,269,356 vaccinations administered. During this same 11 year time frame 6,094 claimants petitioned The NVICP. Of those there were 4,172 compensated, and 1,922 not compensated. This means that 99.999823% of vaccinations administered had no negative effect that required a petitioning of the court, and only 0.000177% of those vaccinations did petition the court. Furthermore, it means that 99.999879% of those vaccinations administered did so without any compensation from the court, and only 0.000121% of those vaccinations had won any compensation.
BUT BABIES MAKE THEIR OWN VITAMIN K BY DAY EIGHT.
This is one of their claims that greatly angers me. I covered the vitamin K shot and the AV myths surrounding the shot in a blog post last year. If a baby is formula fed they will likely have sufficient vitamin K levels in 7-10 days after birth. This is because most formulas made today include vitamin K. Breast fed babies, however, do not usually produce sufficient vitamin K levels until 9-12 months of age. Vitamin K does not pass though breast milk and babies don't have a diet rich in vitamin K until green leafy veggies are introduced to their diet. VKDB (vitamin K deficiency bleeding) is almost exclusively a condition that affects breast fed newborns.
THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERYTHING AND YOU HAVE ONLY HEARD ONE SIDE.
It is true that there are two sides to vaccination facts, there is the correct and the incorrect. If a group of people suddenly began making claims that humans can't drown because they can breathe underwater, and providing humans have not had a physical change to provide this new ability, should this group of people be given equal time and consideration when discussing or debating new air tanks for SCUBA diving? You know they would be wrong or lying so allowing them this time and forum would be a waste of time and a dangerous one should someone believe them. Insisting your argument is the other side and should therefore be treated equally does not magically validate your argument. Nonsense is still nonsense, and nonsense is the counter argument to sense and nothing else.
MEASLES IS HARMLESS, EVEN THE BRADY BUNCH HAD MEASLES AND LIVED.
I realize that anyone under the age of 45 has grown up knowing reality TV as a normal part of broadcast television. However, the Brady Bunch was not reality TV. The actors on the show faked having measles and the outcome was entirely possible because the writers wanted that outcome.
VACCINE CHOICE IS A PARENTAL RIGHT/WHERE THERE IS RISK THERE MUST BE CHOICE.
Vaccine choice is actually a person's right for themselves. Parents don't own their children. When they are minors we are responsible for our children, but, this responsibility must always act on behalf of the child(ren). Parents have no right to make decisions for their minor children that represent the parents' personal or political agendas, regardless of what harm may come to the child. This would then make "parental choice" not a right after all, but a privilege. A privilege can and should be taken away when it is abused by a parent and then causing harm or neglect to the child.
If the majority of parents risk infecting their kids simply by sending them to school, then those parents deserve a choice in the matter. We have already decided. Only medical exemptions should be allowed. You see, you can choose whatever you want when it only affects yourself. When your choices begin to negatively and unnecessarily affect other people, that's when our rights trump your privilege. If you wish to refuse vaccines for yourself, that's cool. If you want to decide this for your child and then send him to school with the public risking the health of our children, that's when it's not cool, and it's not cool for us, our kids, and your kid. We are all then at risk of unnecesary harm by your privilege. If you decided you wanted to catch and drink your own rainwater and in doing so you make yourself ill, that's cool. If you collect your own rainwater for your family to drink though and in the process make your child sick, that's not cool. Your right is impeding on your family's right to remain healthy. Furthermore, if in collecting your own rainwater for consumption you first store it in an area outside without proper treatment or facility, and as a result the water becomes contaminated and leaks into the municipality's drinking water, you will be held civilly liable for damages, and possibly criminally liable for any harm caused to people or property if you knowingly disregarded potential risks and/or laws or regulations in place to prevent such negligence. Lastly, making a claim that you don't trust the governing body's water treatment, you don't agree with what they use to treat the water, you prefer natural spring water to water prepared by man, or that utilizing the water provided for you by the government is a risk so therefore you deserve a choice, you are not entitled a choice or to be spared of such consequences. Your harmful actions based on your own willful stupidity are lawful so long as they do not negatively affect anyone other than yourself, or any property other than your own.
ANDREW WAKEFIELD WAS CORRECT ABOUT AUTISM/WAKEFIELD NEVER CLAIMED THEY CAUSED AUTISM.
Wakefield didn't directly blame vaccines for autism, but he did blame vaccines for autism. He did not, at the time, say vaccines are a direct cause of autism. Instead, he claimed there was evidence to support his suspicions that measles antibodies, which occur in humans after having the measles illness or receiving the measles vaccine, are a cause of certain gut disorders, of which can then cause autism.
If the Wakefield phenomenon interests you in any way I highly suggest you visit, British journalist, Brian Deer's website. He is the investigative reporter responsible for uncovering Wakefield's lies and corruption.
MY NEWBORN WON'T BE SHOOTING UP OR HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX WITH PROSTITUTES. NO HEP B VACCINE NEEDED.
Babies and young children will often bite other people, but things in their mouths that most adults wouldn't even touch, and are also at risk for becoming a victim of sexual abuse. Giving that the disease is spread through blood and unprotected sex, babies are still at risk for the disease.
On a personal note, I remember growing up in the 1980s when HIV/AIDS was all over the news. The scientific community discovered it could only be spread through unprotected sex and blood. If at the time of this discovery a vaccine had also been available, and could safely be administered to newborns, I wonder how many parents would've declined the shot for their children.
VACCINES ARE SO HAZARDOUS THAT IF YOU DROP A VIAL AND IT BREAKS YOU HAVE TO CALL HAZMAT TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.
NATURAL IMMUNITY IS THE ONLY TRUE IMMUNITY.
HEALTHY BABIES DON'T DIE. THEY JUST DON'T/KISSES DON'T KILL.
IF YOUR KIDS ARE VACCINATED, WHY IS MY UN-VACCINATED KID SUCH A THREAT?
HERD IMMUNITY ISN'T REAL.
UN-VACCINATED KIDS ARE HEALTHIER.
VACCINES AREN'T TESTED//AREN'T TESTED ON PREGNANT WOMEN.
THERE IS STILL MERCURY IN VACCINES.
BUT VACCINES ARE INJECTED, NOT INGESTED.
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HASN'T DONE A VACCINE STUDY IN 30 YEARS, A COURT CASE PROVED THIS.
MTHFR (methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase)
BUT, HEAVY METALS AND THE BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER
TETANUS IS KILLED BY BLOOD
RABIES DOESN'T HAPPEN STILL
HPV VACCINE IS KILLING TEENAGERS
HUMANS ARE NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL SO VACCINES SHOULDN'T BE EITHER
Part 2 includes the more crazy claims by AVers, the different types of AVers, and if it's possible to change the mind of an AVer.
What's The Harm?