What's The Harm?

Dr. Eve Krief: Anti-Vaxxers' Newest Big Crush.

3/6/2020

By: Erin K. Costello

Who is Dr. Eve Krief? To put it briefly, because if I don’t keep it brief I could type all night long answering this question, Dr. Eve Krief is a Huntington pediatrician who has been a vocal supporter of children's rights to vaccinations for some time. This past December at the state NOW (National Organization for Women) conference, Dr. Krief, founder of Long Island Inclusive Communities Against Hate, which is aimed at building respect and understanding in communities of diversity, was honored for her efforts and received a Susan B. Anthony award. Dr. Krief is also on the executive committee of the Long Island-Brooklyn/Queens chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics where she works as a Legislative Advocacy chair. In recent years she has been an outspoken activist fighting for the Affordable Care Act (ACA), women’s reproductive rights, abortion rights, and keeping families together instead of torn apart from each other in immigration detention facilities. Dr. Krief has also received the American Academy of Pediatrics Outstanding Achievement Award in 2019, as well as a New York State Senate Commendation Award. This is all just to name a few....

This past week in Albany, NY, the state's capital, Dr. Krief, along with other members of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), met with lawmakers in the Legislative Building for an Assembly Health Committee Meeting. While Dr. Krief and her AAP colleagues tried to meet with legislators, an unhinged and very vocal anti-vaccine mob was there waiting in the hallway to welcome their arrival. These obnoxious individuals followed Dr. Krief and the others around the Legislative building from one floor to another while yelling at both the law makers and the physicians. This group of irrational individuals insulted the physicians, accused them of being bought, of being demons, of breaking their Hippocratic oath, of being cowards who do the bidding of “Lucifer and Satan,” of being vaccine injury denialists, of knowingly and purposely harming and killing children, of lying to the entire public, of “fist bumping” one another for such actions while at an earlier public meeting, of being uneducated, of being lobbyists pushing harmful legislation to “line their pockets,” and for “kicking [their] kids out of school.” These so-called “activists” against vaccines mocked Dr. Krief and others for requiring “armed guards” to escort them around Albany, as though their screaming and irrationality should not be seen as potentially threatening. These “guards,” mind you, were two NY State Troopers who were assigned to work in the Legislative building. In other words, these officers were doing what they were paid to do, keep people safe in our state’s capital. They weren’t armed guards hired to prevent the crowd from speaking their grievances or to counter the anti-vaccine protest, a protest that continuously shouted in unison “WE’RE NOT GOING AWAY.” In keeping true to that threat, members of the New York Alliance for Vaccine Rights, the group responsible for Tuesday's anti-vaccine circle-jerk, is still attacking and harassing Dr. Eve Krief on their Facebook page. Earlier this evening they posted the following post shown below, and continued their hateful cackling like a pack of hyenas in the post's comments, also shown below.

This mob-like mentality the anti-vaxxers exhibited for most of Tuesday did not resemble actions of advocates or activists. Their behavior resembled that of thugs, bullies, and seditionists. Anti-vaccine extremists are merely one violent action away from meeting all the check marks to be labeled as terrorists. They break the law, use force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce government officials and those of us in the civilian population in their efforts to push their political and social objectives. The only thing missing is a targeted violent act. A year ago if I had read or heard someone compare vaccine denialists to terrorists, I would have rolled my eyes and thought this connection was nothing short of immensely exaggerated . However, witnessing this behavior of theirs in person, seeing their verbal attacks and accusations escalate and become more aggressive and more manical, seeing how there is no reasoning with their polluted brainwashed minds, and watching how animated they become when they are confronted with whom they (incorrectly) perceive as the enemy, they are no longer a group of moms protesting through their frustrations. They become unpredictable as they seem to struggle more and more to control themselves when faced with anyone who dares to question their tribal mentality.

They have become consumed by this baseless hate and deal with this by choosing a target and stalking people like Dr. Eve Krief, a medical professional that never cared for their children, that did not create or manufacture a vaccine, and did not in any way harm their children.

Remember back when it was the 9/11 "truthers" that looked like crazy ones?

Below you will find some videos from YouTube. These are all from the March 3, 2020 protest in Albany, NY, which I attended, and back up my claims in this blog post. Some of the videos shown below are my own video and audio recordings, some are videos posted by other YouTube channels, and others are videos found on Facebook posted by anti-vaxxers. I will label each one accordingly.

This first video is my own audio recording where the woman shown in the picture expresses desire to kiss Gov. Cuomo and give him the corona virus. The image is mine as well.

This next video is mine that I recorded inside the Capital Building outside of the hall of Governors offices. This protest seems less like a protest but more of an angry party for those attending, right down to the lying and hiding of their toys at the end to the NY State Troopers.

My own video showing the end of a brief argument between anti-vaxxers and a woman in a black shirt walking down the street. I caught up to the woman asking her if she'd like to talk to me about what the argument was about but she did not want to talk to me.

My own audio recording discussing the argument with anti-vaxxers between anti-vaxxers and the woman in the black shirt. Besides myself, I do not know who the women speaking in the video are, but the man heard is Matthew McIntyre, who is currently running for Assembly District 125.

Video made by The Real Truther showing Ali Hamideh harassing AAP physicians on March 3, 2020 in Albany, NY.

Another video thanks to The Real Truther showing harassment of AAP physicians and legislators on March 3, 2020 in Albany, NY.

My own video and audio of Ali Hamideh talking outside in Albany, NY on March 3, 2020. In this video he admits to suing the school district, not the state of NY, over medical exemptions, not over religious exemptions, and at one point even says it was unfortunate that they had to sue the school and not the state. The state of NY did not deny his son a medical exemption, but left the decision up to the school district, who in turn did deny his son a medical exemption. Ali sued the district and won. None of what Ali and his family have been through involve the state of NY or religious exemptions.

Video posted to and by the Facebook page New York Alliance for Vaccine Rights depicting their members harassing legislators and AAP physicians in the Legislative building in Albany, NY on March 3, 2020.

Video posted to and by the Facebook page New York Alliance for Vaccine Rights depicting Rita Palma, a known NYS anti-vaccine activist, and others harassing NYS legislators and AAP physicians in Albany, NY Legislature building on March 3, 2020.

14 Comments

Dana N

3/8/2020 06:05:49 am

Hello,
Dr. krief was my son’s pediatrician before 2 years old and my daughters since birth. She was very good with my son. Dr, Krief told me my daughter would die without the prevnar vaccine. I started to go to another doctor in the practice after that. I wanted to have an open discussion about my sons reactions to vaccines and I was dismissed.
Before my daughters 36 month well check I was told I had to leave the practice or vaccinate my daughter. My son was not in need of a vaccine nor was my daughter. They are both healthy children. We loved that office and the doctors. Throwing families on the street is awful. Clapping that children didn’t get medical exemptions approved is wrong ( she did that at a town hall meeting with Senator gaughran) have some morality. Seriously. On 3/4 the surgeon general of the USA said “ What I want Americans to know is when we look back at past infectious disease outbreaks like this, they weren't ended with therapeutics or with vaccines. They ended with hand washing, they were ended with social distancing. They were ended with the basic public health and hygiene measures that keep us safe from the flu and the everyday cold and will also keep us safe from coronavirus."

Governor Cuomo on CNN said his constituents don’t trust information being put out by the CDC and the Fed. People don’t believe doctors who back they CDC. Everything has risk nothing has zero liability and to protect that is like a child holding their breath for a tantrum. Not I’m not talking about vaccines... no they’re perfect.... safe... effective. That sounds like my children when they don’t want to eat their vegetables. This OPINION piece is so off base you shouldn’t be allowed to publish it.

Susan

3/8/2020 06:34:43 pm

Sorry Dana but she has every right to publish it. She’s right abou lt anti vaxers , their tactics and the most information they publish. None of us need to put up with it any more. If someone makes the choice not to vaccinate, and they still have that choice, they are making to choice to home school, be excluded from sports, visiting ICUs and elder care facilities. You don’t have the right to expose others.

Dana

3/8/2020 07:53:25 pm

She turned us away after 3 years of care. My children never had any disease. I’m talking about medical care. It’s insane to not provide care to any child. My son has mitochondrial dysfunction, I was never able to discuss it at the practice because they would not. It was an awful feeling.
The person who wrote this can write whatever they want. It’s freedom of speech of course. But now with all the lawsuits against the CDC I think it’s time we all agree vaccines can’t be 100% safe. It’s just not logical.

The current vaccines are not tested in multi dose. The data is antiquated. The data and efficacy comes from single dose testing.

They are peer reviewed but not with a inert saline placebo.

Vaccines should be Double blind peer reviewed inert saline placebo
Phase 3 trial . That is the gold standard of testing.

Peer reviewed = conflict of interest. The manufacturers that produce these products have produced opioids, VIOXX and other controversial pharmaceuticals. They were also defended.

Some vaccines contain more than one antibiotic. The most common antibiotic used in vaccines is Neomycin. Other antibiotics include Amphotericin B, Chlortetracycline, Gentamicin, Polymyxin B, and Streptomycin. How are we to know what a newborn is allergic too?

There are so many causes for concern to list them all would be irrational. I would hope you would come to the conclusion blanket medicine is not good and one size fits all is dangerous. Even if we went back to single dose vaccines, that would be a step in the right direction.

Something has to give. Doctors should not be allowed to discharge patients or threaten too. They should want to talk about the parents concerns and not be brash/ dismissive and aggressive. Instead listen and maybe even run a test or two, to full out any possible issues. The new vaccine catch schedule is very aggressive and not tested for safety like the current schedule.

I hope you can understand some people just want to talk with their physicians about their concerns.

Editor Unicorn.

3/8/2020 09:15:20 pm

Dana,

You are gish-galloping already. A sample of your gish-gallop points:

a) Who is saying vaccines are 100%, no one.

b) Double blind peer reviewed inert saline placebo Phase 3 trial. Really? Do you know how unethical that is in a modern format ? This is a really good article that will help you with the ethics of that https://medium.com/@edwardnirenberg/the-vaccine-study-that-anti-vaccine-activists-think-they-want-2290969936fb

c) What lawsuits against the CDC ? the ones from antivaccine groups that are being dismissed by the courts (ie: voluntarily withdrawn) - https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/ican-foia-lawsuit-misrepresenting-another-non-win-from-anti-vaccine-group/

d) Peer reviewed = conflict of interest ? Really, are you saying the global medical and scientific community globally cannot be trusted ? Where is your evidence of that ?

e) Doctors have an duty to protect their patients, anti-vaxxers want to jeopardize that right. You cannot have your cake and eat it.

f) inert saline placebo - Why ? how does that fit into a modern vaccine trial or is it that you misunderstand what a placebo is or when it is used ?

https://sciblogs.co.nz/diplomaticimmunity/2018/02/21/the-brouhaha-around-placebo-choice-in-vaccine-trials/

https://sciblogs.co.nz/diplomaticimmunity/2017/02/20/gardasil-vaccine-compared-placebo/

Scientific theory does not change simple as you want it to.

Erin

3/12/2020 07:34:03 pm

Sorry Susan but your post doesn’t make much sense.
When did our government tell us that kids are only entitled to a free public education if a bunch of vaccines that contain dangerous metals, chemicals, etc are pushed into them?
Are you up to date on the same schedule as my children? Yes, my kids are current and vaccinated but I am smart enough to realize the dangers of forced vaccination, recognizing the dangers of vaccines, the possible injury, the parents who have injured children, the agenda of our government, the get out of jail free card given to vaccine manufacturers, the financial gains for the CDC, the financial/familial ties Brad Holyman has to Merck, the lack of proof or testing the CDC claims to have in regards to autism and vaccines, the financial gain a doctor is offered for fully vaccinated patients, the convicted felony charges of each major Pharma company, and that I live in America where we are free to have differing ideas and perspectives. A country that is supposed to welcome differences and embrace other’s opinions.
But hey, sure feel free to judge all you want. After all, it is the land of the free. Speak freely as the people in the biased and altered videos did.

Erin Costello

3/18/2020 07:08:53 am

“but I am smart enough to realize the dangers of forced vaccination,“ Too bad you are unable to recognize whether this is forced vaccination or not. Because its not. No one is forced to be vaccinated. You still have the choice for yourself and your kids, though your decision may have consequences. Every decision has a consequence. In this case, refusal to vaccinate results in losing the ability to attend public school.

Idk when your govt told you anything since idk who is in your govt. However, some state govts in the U.S. have passed laws removing non-medical exemptions to vaccinations. If your state is one of them then you should be able to discuss this with your reps. Vaccines don’t contain dangerous metals or chemicals. And OF COURSE they are “pushed into” kids and people. That’s kind of what a shot does,

You are not qualified to recognize or diagnose “vaccine injury.” Unless, are you a doctor or similar health care professional? I’m guessing you’re not though. When it comes to our kids, we DO know them. We can tell when they aren’t acting like themselves, or don’t feel well. But that doesn’t make us suddenly able to diagnose and treat them medically. We know when they should see a doctor, but there’s a reason why we take them to the doctor, it’s because we aren’t fucking doctors!

I don’t know about Susan but I am up to date on all vaccinations.

They don’t have a get out of jail free card, and being sued both before 1986 and after wasn’t in criminal court anyways. Wtf are you talking about with jail?? It was and is civil court. If they are caught breaking a criminal law then jail could become a possibility. The fact you don’t even know the difference here makes me wonder why the hell you are even commenting.

What agenda does our govt have? Who has this agenda? Govt isn’t a lone entity that acts as one mind. It’s just a group of people. It’s you, it’s me, it’s all Americans. So please tell me what part of govt has an agenda, and who exactly in this area of govt is pushing this agenda. What agenda is that? Why do they want this agenda? How long have they had this agenda? When should it be complete? How will it be completed? Are you sure it’s not an agency wide professional agenda hoping to be complete, you know, like a GOAL for all us Americans?

What financial gains does the CDC have? If they do make money, what are they doing with it? Because many govt agencies do receive donations and such but they have to act in transparency, and it is easily proven whether or not the money went back into R&D or not in this case. But first I need to know what financial gains you are referring to.

Doctors do not receive bribes for all patients vaccinated. You’re now parroting a 5 year old talking point for AVers. This offer was from BCBS and only in the state of Michigan and only to those who chose to participate (check our blog history, we covered this in early 2018). Doctors were given a small incentive for healthy patients. This meant majority vaccinated, or a certain percentage of patients with normal BMIs, or majority of diabetes patients with normal range blood sugars...etc....In other words, they were rewarded for being good doctors and caring for patients.

Also, you realize BCBS is a U.S. for profit health insurance company, right? If anyone were to be “vaccine injured” from vaccinations then BCBS would have to cover that person’s medical bills while insured with BCBS. If vaccines caused the company to have to pay more medical claims in those vaccinated than those not vaccinated, then they wouldn’t push for vaccinations, and they sure as hell wouldn’t then offer a cash incentive for doctors to create these medical claims! It is cheaper for BCBS to offer this incentive, pay for the vaccine, run this risk of the alleged “vaccine injury,” than it is for BCBS to have clients unvaccinated and at risk for preventable diseases. In our capitalist society, the money don’t lie.

Who are these felons? What felonies were they convicted of committing? Why is this relevant?

The CDC does have a lack of proof that vaccines and autism are connected. If they didn’t have a lack of proof then they’d have proof they were connected. The very fact you haven’t seen proof of a connection is in fact proof there is a lack of proof. They specifically tested this possibility, and found no causal link. Do you want proof they have no proof? Because the lack or proof produced for you is the proof you are looking for that there is a lack of proof. Do you get how ridiculous this sounds?

You want to try again with another list of common anti vaccine talking points that have been proven bullshit time and again? I’m out of work for a few weeks thanks to COVID19 so I don’t mind taking the tim

Paul Alan Thompson

3/9/2020 06:09:29 am

Pediatricians should stop seeing anti-vax idiots. The anti-vax movement is child abuse, and the children of the anti-vaxxers should be removed and placed with parents who will properly care for those children.

Jennifer

3/11/2020 05:21:54 pm

It's a blog. You can write whatever you want on your own blog. Aren't you antivaxxers always the ones bitching about censorship and free speech? 🙄

Erin Costello

3/11/2020 06:04:42 pm

I know right! They always cry how they are victims of censorship for whatever reason yet as soon as someone says something or writes something they don't like they want to hurry up and shut that person up! Here are two hilarious examples of this, one example is of Brian Festa from CTFA and the other is from Robyn Openshaw of Green something or other Girl.

https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=brian+festa

https://www.whatistheharm.com/blogwhatstheharm/anti-vaxxer-threatens-to-slapp-vaccine-supporters

Erin Costello

3/8/2020 07:40:40 am

I find it incredibly rich that an anti-vaxxer is trying to tell me what shouldn’t be allowed to be published considering all the fake science many of you believe and share. Also, my opinion is not at all off base. I was there on March 3. I recorded and have audio of the things I discuss. This “movement” is becoming unhinged. #VaccinesWork

Senate Trooper

3/8/2020 12:17:27 pm

I've seen several videos as well as comments from people who where there.

Antivaxxer act like the Westboro Baptist Church, like a cult.

Coralie Endean

3/9/2020 02:14:51 pm

This "movement" is now killing more people than global terrorism. Who is going to stop them? We should be lobbying government to stop these cultists from spreading their "fake news" before another AV driven outbreak such as the 80 Samoan measles deaths occurs.

Long Island Parent

8/28/2021 07:41:41 am

Good lord , You clearly don’t write for a living.
Those videos did not depict rabid anti vaxxers as you claim.
My children are fully vaccinated, but I draw the line at these dangerous Covid vaccines.
I have researched these vaccines long before they were rolled out, and followed the rollouts worldwide from day one. I have looked at ALL data , from the trials, cdc, sec filings from the manufacturers, fda , etc - . I have spoken with numerous virologists, infectious disease specialists, hematologists, researchers , and physicians regarding these vaccines.
I have helped many of them with data collection.

These vaccines do NOT prevent infection nor transmission, they NEVER did and they were never designed to. It was only HOPED they would reduce the severity of illness, but they have also failed miserably at that. We need to stop calling them “ breakthrough “ cases. They are not only common, but were expected.
Those outcomes were predictable if you just looked at the original trials data .
In EVERY single place the rollouts happened, immediately following there were huge spikes of Covid. That trend will continue as long as we keep vaccinating. It was especially obvious in long term care facilities, worldwide.

The manufacturers themselves said that they knew the vaccines created antibodies, but they weren’t sure exactly what those antibodies would do. We know now that the spike proteins do NOT stay at the injection site or local lymph nodes. They DO enter the blood stream and cross the blood brain barrier, with devastating effects, including death.

Many medical professionals are afraid to speak out, but there are far more physicians quietly telling their patients to avoid these vaccines than anyone realizes.

There are children that died in the trials, they haven’t been made public, YET.
The fda knows they should NEVER have issued the EUA for these vaccines. The new “ approval “ was given on manipulated and OUTDATED data.
The FDA now has ZERO credibility for rubber stamping that approval. A approval for a vaccine that is not yet available and can NOT be mandated. The EUA still exists.

The American academy of pediatrics has also lost all credibility by pushing these vaccines. If by some sheer act of lunacy these vaccines are given a EUA or approval in the future for children , I will not hesitate to pull all my children from the public school system.
The cases of myocarditis and pericarditis that is known and admitted to by the cdc are being undercounted . This is beyond disturbing.
Covid is NOT a risk to children , it never was.

Those advocating to vaccinate children to protect adults should be ashamed. Children shouldn’t be used as human shields. It’s our job as parents to protect children, not hide behind them! There is NO benefit for children to vaccinate them for Covid, there is only risk from the vaccines.

We have been watching Israel and the UK closely, we’re about 2 months behind them. Their results are disastrous. Expect to see the same here in the coming weeks and months.

Furthermore, there is ZERO informed consent being given to anyone. Coercion does NOT equal consent.

I have worked in the health care industry for more than 20 years, and now focus on patient safety.

Mark my words, these vaccines are eventually going to get pulled and put back on the shelf where they belong. The ceo and President of moderna has been selling off lots of their stock this month, perhaps they see the writing on the wall they always knew would eventually come. Watch Pfizer stock for insiders sell off too.

Delta variant may be more transmissible, but it is LESS dangerous than the original strain . That’s what viruses do, Covid is no exception. Most doctors can’t differentiate Covid from a cold, allergies, or flu.
If you get Covid, get treatment early and don’t listen to physicians that tell you to go home and call when you can’t breathe. That’s been happening way too much. Demand to be treated, especially if you are overweight. Most people who do poorly with Covid are overweight. If you fall into that category ask for regeneron monoclonal antibody treatment. They help immensely. They are even offered at many nursing homes for early treatment without having to go to a hospital.

Masks don’t work, and if your physician tells you they do, find a new one. The cdc is endangering people by telling them masks work. Social distancing for high risk individuals is much better. Use common sense, because the cdc certainly isn’t.

If you do decide to get one of these vaccines, before you do ,have a antibody test done first ,and also a T cell test done called t-detect , available through Labcorp. If you test positive, don’t get vaccinated. Many more vaccine injuries and deaths have been in people who previously had Covid .
After you get vaccinated, test for antibodies again.
If you have any headac

Long Island parent

8/28/2021 07:59:40 am

Continuing because the last of my comments got cut off
I have researched these vaccines long before they were rolled out, and followed the rollouts worldwide from day one. I have looked at ALL data , from the trials, cdc, sec filings from the manufacturers, fda , etc - . I have spoken with numerous virologists, infectious disease specialists, hematologists, researchers , and physicians regarding these vaccines.
I have helped many of them with data collection.

These vaccines do NOT prevent infection nor transmission, they NEVER did and they were never designed to. It was only HOPED they would reduce the severity of illness, but they have also failed miserably at that. We need to stop calling them “ breakthrough “ cases. They are not only common, but were expected.
Those outcomes were predictable if you just looked at the original trials data .
In EVERY single place the rollouts happened, immediately following there were huge spikes of Covid. That trend will continue as long as we keep vaccinating. It was especially obvious in long term care facilities, worldwide.
There are children that died in the trials, they haven’t been made public, YET.
The fda knows they should NEVER have issued the EUA for these vaccines. The new “ approval “ was given on manipulated and OUTDATED data.
The FDA now has ZERO credibility for rubber stamping that approval. A approval for a vaccine that is not yet available and can NOT be mandated. The EUA still exists.

The American academy of pediatrics has also lost all credibility by pushing these vaccines. If by some sheer act of lunacy these vaccines are given a EUA or approval in the future for children , I will not hesitate to pull all my children from the public school system.
The cases of myocarditis and pericarditis that is known and admitted to by the cdc are being undercounted . This is beyond disturbing.
Covid is NOT a risk to children , it never was.

Those advocating to vaccinate children to protect adults should be ashamed. Children shouldn’t be used as human shields. It’s our job as parents to protect children,

Furthermore, there is ZERO informed consent being given to anyone. Coercion does NOT equa
Mark my words, these vaccines are eventually going to get pulled and put back on the shelf where they belong.
Delta variant may be more transmissible, but it is LESS dangerous than the original strain . That’s what viruses do, Covid is no exception. Most doctors can’t differentiate Covid from a cold, allergies, or flu.
If you get Covid, get treatment early and don’t listen to physicians that tell you to go home and call when you can’t breathe. That’s been happening way too much. Demand to be treated, especially if you are overweight. Most people who do poorly with Covid are overweight. If you fall into that category ask for regeneron monoclonal antibody treatment. They help immensely. They are even offered at many nursing homes for early treatment without having to go to a hospital.

Masks don’t work, and if your physician tells you they do, find a new one. The cdc is endangering people by telling them masks work. Social distancing for high risk individuals is much better. Use common sense, because the cdc certainIf you do decide to get one of these vaccines, before you do ,have a antibody test done first ,and also a T cell test done called t-detect , available through Labcorp. If you test positive, don’t get vaccinated. Many more vaccine injuries and deaths have been in people who previously had Covid .
After you get vaccinated, test for antibodies again. If you have any headaches, or symptoms beyond a sore arm or fatigue after vaccination insist on a d- dimer blood test to check for micro clots which can be deadly and can only be found with that test.
If you’re experiencing anxiety, racing heart, or chest pain, stomach pain, vomiting after vaccination insist on imaging tests to check for heart enlargement, myocarditis and pericarditis, and possibly larger blood clots.

I could easily write a 1,000 page paper here , there’s so much I haven’t covered. But I’ll stop here now.

Stay safe all.

Dr. Eve Krief: Anti-Vaxxers' Newest Big Crush.

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