When An Anti-Vaxxer Leaves Me Voice Messages

By Erin K. Costello

Sunday night I received a message request in my Facebook Messenger from a woman named Elizabeth Sequoria. She sent me a voice message and sounded quite upset over the fact I had commented on a post. I commented after being tagged in a comment about the trustworthiness and past arrest record of Catie Colbes. The post itself was about a little baby that was rushed to the hospital for seizures. But, like the good anti-vaccine vultures they are, Larry Cook and Catie Colbes had commented to the mother of the baby to claim, in their complete and total lack of education or experience on the matter, that vaccinations were the cause of her child’s ailment. It was in response to their swooping in that another person had tagged me and mentioned Catie’s arrest record. I replied by listing the three times Ms. Clobes was arrested in the past and I offered to provide links if they so wished, but it would have to wait until later since I was on my way out the door at that time.
  I’m writing this blog post to both call attention to the behavior of anti-vaccination advocates as well as address some of the things mentioned in these voice messages, because I am a little petty like that.

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First, let me start by saying that Catie Clobes does in fact have an arrest record and I was simply supplying this record. The person who tagged me asking for this information has since removed her comment. I don’t blame her. I have no doubt she also received messages like I have to some degree. I listed three arrests of Catie’s; one from 2013, one from January 2018, and one from March of 2018. That was all I provided. Here is a screen shot of my comment.

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Here are the voice messages I received from Elizabeth Sequoria. I combined them all in this mp4 file to upload to Youtube, so I could link them here. They are numbered in the order of which I received them. I did respond to a few things and I am providing the screen shots of my responses. This went by fast and by the time I could actually listen to all of her voice messages to try and respond to everything, she blocked me like the pussy she is.

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Voice Message 1 (start to 0:30 seconds into video)

  I’m accused of “talking shit” on social media. My comment listing the arrest record is not talking shit since it’s factual information.
  I’m told I am old and wrinkly. Well, I am 44 years, and I do have some wrinkles, though Ms. Sequoria is far from young herself. She’s easily into her later 30s and has as many facial wrinkles as I do. I will go into more about Elizabeth later on in this blog post.
  I am not trolling people to tell them vaccinations did not kill their babies. I am providing factual information released about the deaths of their children. I am not a medical professional nor am I THEIR health care worker so I have no authority to determine anyone's cause of death. I am fully capable of sharing this information from those who are qualified to determine such things though. This is what I do since these parents conveniently leave this information out.

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Voice Message 2 (0:31 seconds to 1:15 seconds into video)

  Let me just say that, of course, a person who has been arrested is capable of telling the truth. No where did I suggest otherwise. However, when deciding if you can believe a stranger, one's character comes into question. I do believe that specific arrest records can tell someone a lot about a person's character. Catie was arrested for possession of marijuana twice in 2018. At least one of those arrests happened when she was pregnant with her now deceased daughter, Evee. Another arrest was for criminal neglect. These two arrests I feel are relevant to her character when deciding to believe Catie when she accuses vaccinations as being the cause of Evee’s death. They become even more relevant when you discover that Catie was given a likely cause of death for Evee already;  unsafe sleeping practices.
  Who am I to question Catie Clobes? I am another human on this planet who is also a mother. Claims like Catie’s that aren’t based in any science cause a risk to overall public health. I am concerned about this risk. That is who I am.
  Yes, it is true that the NVICP has paid out over $4 billion in compensation so far. But, let’s break this number down to add context. According to NVICP, from January 1, 2006* to December 31, 2017 there were 3,454,269,356 vaccinations administered. During this same 11 year time frame 6,094 claimants petitioned The NVICP. Of those there were 4,172 compensated, and 1,922 not compensated. This means that 99.999823% of vaccinations administered had no negative effect that required a petitioning of the court, and only 0.000177% of those vaccinations did petition the court. Furthermore, it means that 99.999879% of those vaccinations administered did so without any compensation from the court, and only 0.000121% of those vaccinations had won any compensation. When you break it down like this then the $4 billion amount seems miniscule.
*This time frame begins on this date to reflect petitions filed since the inclusion of the influenza vaccine in July, 2015. The influenza vaccine is now named in the majority of all NVICP petitions.

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Voice message 3 (from 1:16 to 1:50 into the video)

  First, let me address the “I don’t have a dick” comment from Elizabeth. In the screen shots below showing my text responses, you’ll see me point out how she must care very much about what I have to say since she’s all up in my inbox. I then make a joke asking her “Just don’t send me your dick pics lol."
  Next, I am then blamed for this “shitty country." I do have to admit though, I voted for Bush the second time. I know! I am sorry.
  Am I a bartender? Yes, I have tended bar through most of my adult life. I have had other types of jobs though too. I don’t list every job I have ever had in my Facebook profile. In fact, the jobs I do list are for businesses that are now out of business. I have never said on-line where I work or what I do presently. That is by design and people like Elizabeth are the reason.
  Am I that hard up for attention? I didn’t realize the only people who tend bar are hard up for attention. I find this remark rich coming from someone who sings in a band. The point of singing is to gain and hold people’s attention. Though, as much as I hate to admit this, Elizabeth is a very talented singer. I will elaborate on this later on in this blog post.

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Voice Message Four (from 1:51 to 1:59)

I still receive dick pics, sadly. I have discovered a fool-proof way to stopping a person from sending you any more dick pics though! If you receive a dick pic, simply reciprocate the gesture! Send them a vagina pic. Google “blue waffle” and send them the first vagina picture that comes up in image results. It is quite amazing to see someone go from sending you intimate images of themselves to blocking YOU only seconds later.

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Voice Message Five (1:59 to 2:18)

   I do know her name. Her first name is Elizabeth, though her last name isn’t actually Sequoria. Her last name is really Vernon.
   Ahh…the threat of doxing me. You see, Elizabeth isn’t the first person to do this to me. I have been doxed repeatedly over the past two years. In fact, the first time was almost 2 years ago to this day! Since then I have also sold my house and moved. However, even though my new address has yet to be revealed, I have no doubt that it could be found rather easily. I often have to find current addresses for people and I am rarely unable to find an address. Even though I have been careful about not revealing my location, I am not naïve.
   I have not received anything else in my inbox, dick pics or otherwise.

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Voice Message Six (from 2:19 to 2:47)

  Again, let me discuss the dick comment. I laughed my ass off so hard when I first listened to voice message 3, where Elizabeth starts it off saying “I don’t have a dick,” that I just instinctively responded to hearing that with “I think you have a dick.” Please remember that this was not a friendly conversation with a rational woman so my inner asshole appeared and decided to fuck with her. Looking back on this I feel it could rub people the wrong way and let me say that I understand and will not argue anyone’s feelings about this. You are probably right. These are comments I would never make publicly and I do regret having made them privately.
  Now, Ms. Sequoria is correct that it wouldn’t matter if she did in fact have a dick. Regardless of what this dispute had been about, her genitals would have no bearing on the subject content. That being said, I am not a liar. She had read one comment of mine at this point, the one about Ms. Clobes’ arrest record. The links provided above show that I was not lying. Also, it should go without saying, but, vaccinations are not causing a genocide.
  For the record, I never once mentioned her boobs. Also, as established above, I can at times be an asshole.

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Voice Message 7 (from 2:48 to 3:04)

  Let’s be honest here, no one wants to hear what a piece of shit they are regardless if it’s true or not. Stalking is unwanted and/or repeated behavior by an individual. So, the fact we are on message number 7 already, I think it’s safe to say she was stalking my inbox.

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Voice Message 8 (from 3:05 to 3:58)

  I never once talked to anyone about health. Again, I am not qualified to give health advice. The most I will say, and I do say this often, is that people should discuss their concerns with their physicians. Also, health and vaccinations are not synonymous. Vaccinations can help some people, and they can be dangerous for some people. Regardless, if I am vaccinated for measles today and another person is not, this does not make me healthier than that other person. This has no bearing on each of our health at the time. However, if two months down the road both myself and this person are exposed to measles, then the following week I am likely to be in better health that the other person due to my having been vaccinated against measles.
  I know I don't have to comment on this, but as for my own personal health, I am rather healthy. I don’t smoke, drink, take or require prescription drugs, do illegal drugs (though I have been known to enjoy mushrooms on occasion in my past), I am not in danger of diabetes, and I don’t eat food that isn’t prepared by me in my home. I also walk/jog and/or ride a bike almost daily. I cover at least 25km a week with these activities (Pokemon Go counts in km). I do not do these activities to lose weight, though I have gone down 3 pant sizes, I do them to relieve stress. My choice to only eat food prepared by me from my home is a step to improve my health though. Mostly because I didn’t like how eating out so often was making me feel.  I feel proud of myself for doing all of this and I have seen results in my stress levels, how I feel each day, my energy, and even my weight.
   “…to try and discredit HER truth…” [emphasis mine]. That is exactly the point though! It is HER truth, not THE truth. Now, I also never said that her arrests would or should discredit Catie. I simply provided information when I was asked to. Whatever Elizabeth took away from this information is on her, not me.
  If I attacked other people because I felt I was nasty or gross then I would be attacking other people by calling them nasty and gross, much like Elizabeth is doing here. I never attacked anyone, nor have I cared about their looks one way or another. I care about lies. That is all. I am sorry if people feel they are bullied by myself or anyone else when they have their lies corrected. This isn’t personal. I don’t personally hate or dislike Catie. I don’t even care if SHE believes false information. I hate that she spreads lies and misinformation. If Catie stopped doing this then I would never give her another thought. I am beginning to really dislike Elizabeth though.
  She wants to walk/drive up to Utica and visit me! She begins by threatening to come up to Utica and then words it as “you want to hang out, you want to have a meeting…” like now it’s somehow my idea. I do think it is good Elizabeth isn’t afraid of me, especially since I have never given her a reason to be afraid of me. In fact, by the time I listened to this message I had only heard of her for less than 30 minutes. But, for some reason she finds it important to insist how she isn’t afraid of me. It kind of sounds like a case of “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” Either way, I have not nor am I inviting her to Utica. If she decides to come to Utica then that’s all on her.

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Voice Message 9 (from 3:59 to 4:06)

  She is lying. She is anti-vaccine. I elaborate below.

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Voice Message 10 (from 4:07 to 4:28)

  OK now, anti-vaccine does not mean you have never been vaccinated or never allowed vaccinations. To be anti-vaccine means that you, to some degree or another, believe vaccine science is lying about vaccine safety and efficacy, and as a result you refuse some or all vaccinations for yourself or a loved one. If you refuse the HPV vaccine for your child because you heard it harmed someone somewhere, then you are anti-vaccine. If you refuse the flu shot because you believe that it gave you or gives you the flu, then you are anti-vaccination. I realize reading this will upset some people, possibly even some readers of ours to this website or our Facebook page. I am sorry if that is you. However, refusing any vaccinations due to a gut feeling and denying what the science says is no different from refusing all vaccinations for this same reason. You are just more selective with your anti-vaccination views. Even still, it is more likely you will be open to what the science says than your more hardcore anti-vaccine advocates, so at least there’s that.
  I have recently bleached my hair several times to remove the pink hair dye completely. I had to do this in order for the blue to set in correctly. However, I am unaware of any documented case of hair bleach having “seeped” into anyone’s head and affected their brain activity. Also, seeing as though Elizabeth was once blond herself and is now a brunette, I feel it is safe to say she is no stranger to hair dye. I’m not really sure where she wanted to go with this part of the voice message.

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Voice Message 11 (from 4:28 to 4:49)

  She says it doesn’t even matter and then goes into another rant about both my looks and her looks. It would seem that none of this has been about vaccinations or Catie but in fact is all about how Elizabeth feels about her looks and her health. This need to compare herself to me is shown in these voice messages more often than her distrust of vaccinations. I can’t help but to wonder, what was this all really about?

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Voice Message 12 (from 4:49 to 4:59)

  She is lying, again. No where was my information pulled up and posted for me to see. Also, I’ve never been arrested in my life. I’ve never even been in hand-cuffs outside of a bedroom before, let alone arrested. I have come close to arrest a few times, I’m sure. And I’ve certainly broken the law at times throughout my life (though I have never knowingly physically harmed another person outside of self-defense). My lack of arrest does not make me better or worse than anyone else in that regard. However, I have never been arrested, so she is lying in this voice message.

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Voice Message 13 (from 5:00 to 5:47)

  I mentioned to Elizabeth that I wondered why she was so upset about a person’s arrest record being shared. I thought maybe she could relate to Catie in this way somehow. I did briefly look for arrest records for Elizabeth but I didn’t find anything. She also claims to have lived in the UK for a time so I’m not sure how long she has lived in the US. I also don’t know all the states she has lived in and only checked two states that I know she has resided. My lack of finding arrests could mean she has no arrests or it could mean I didn’t look in the correct places.
  I am unsure of what she has read that I said to “these mothers” online after they lost “their babies.” I guess she could’ve read some blog posts on the website here? Or maybe found a Facebook comment or two? However, I don’t recall ever saying anything disparaging to any grieving mother. I may have discussed with others online what such a mother had said. But, even then it was never said TO the mother, and was still always respectful of their pain. I don’t doubt that every one of these mothers is grieving with the kind of pain I can not begin to imagine. I will never judge or question what a mother tells herself to get through this pain each day. I even understand how and why a mother will want to convince herself and others how it was a vaccination that took their baby from them, instead of accept the real reason or accept that there is no known reason. Just because I understand it though, does not make it right to try to persuade other mothers to place their children at risk in an attempt to alleviate some of their pain or guilt. I realize some people may think it is asshole of me to not stay quiet when a grieving mother tries to spread misinformation about vaccinations in attempt to persuade other mothers to deny their children vaccinations. Maybe I am a bit of an asshole for this. Asshole or not though, I am also not wrong since these lies do endanger other children.
  “…exactly the type of woman that should be eliminated from this world…” Elizabeth feels she has identified me as the type of woman that should be eliminated from this world. This is the second time I’ve had to sit and wonder if what I was hearing in these messages was an actual threat. I don’t feel as though this constitutes as a reportable threat. After doing this for a couple of years I have come to know and understand the difference between a threat and an “actionable threat.” Actionable threats should always be reported. This is not an actionable threat.
  Again, I don’t care to support someone else’s truth when it is not in fact the truth, when it is known to not be THE truth. Whether this false truth hood is coming from a man or a woman has no bearing on anything with me.
  I must say though, Elizabeth is correct in assuming I am the kind of woman who believes women should have the right to control THEIR OWN bodies and especially their own reproductive health. I am not only pro-choice in this regard, I am pro-abortion. Pro-choice just means you believe woman should have a right to decide on choices about relative matters. Pro-abortion means you believe abortion needs to be one of those choices available to women. I am pro-abortion.
  I was also glad to hear Elizabeth stop herself before saying “everyone should have rights to kill their NEWBORN babies” [emphasis mine] and corrected herself to say “unborn babies.”

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Voice Message 14 (from 5:47 to 5:52)

  I have no clue who the “we” is in this message, or what information she has about me. I wasn’t aware I was “playing” anything either.

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So, who is Elizabeth Sequoria/Vernon?

  I am nothing if not objective, at least I try to be. Elizabeth is an anti-vaccine activist. She has been since at least 2014 from what I can see in her Facebook history. She claims to have a son named Aser who was allegedly given a contaminated vaccination at the health bureau first of El-Mansoura. She is also a bee keeper and a honey enthusiast. She appears to make products from honey, including a cannabis infused honey. Personally, I find cannabis infused honey to sound amazing! I may have to place an order, though under an assumed name naturally.
  I was also surprised to see in a video from the Vaxxed Facebook page that Elizabeth volunteers, or at least used to volunteer, at an organization called Life With Joy, spending her time with those with autism. I find this admirable.
  As mentioned earlier, she is also a lead singer in a band called Queen Bee and The Hive, and a talented one at that. In fact, the entire band sounded talented. I rather enjoyed listening to a few of their songs. If you find yourself in a situation considering to hire this band for an occasion or event, I strongly suggest you do so. You will not be disappointed.

  All that having been said, Elizabeth is also a very rude, judgmental, hateful, aggressive, and insulting person on social media. She is clearly in her late 30s/early 40s yet is calling me old at 44 years of age. In the video featured here you can see that though I would not call Elizabeth obese, I would not call her thin either. She certainly doesn’t look very thin in those back rolls. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm only a couple sizes bigger than she.

  In the comments featured just below, she refers to Hillary Clinton as a “BATTY CUNT” and can’t wait until she drops dead, she judges other people for using a “crutch” like e-cigarettes, calls a woman stupid and blames her for contributing to “MASS GENOCIDE OF THE AMERICAN CHILDREN…..” when the woman expresses no desire to be associated with catty women, she publicly posts a reporter’s email address because the woman wrote about anti-vaccination advocates, accused a woman of injecting her child with toxins because she considered getting her kid a tetanus shot, accused another woman of injecting poison into her child through vaccination, and many more comments included. She also doesn’t vaccinate her pets and offered to help spread chicken pox to expectant visitors. These are all comments found throughout the years in the following Facebook groups: Stop Mandatory Vaccination, Holistic Mama, Vaccination Re-education Discussion Forum, VaccineChoices - Face VS Fiction, Conversations & Research, Vaccine Education Network : Natural Health Anti-Vaxx Community, VACCINES- THE HARMFUL & THE DEADLY TRUTH, Vaccine Resistance Movement: VRM Updates & News From The Trenches.

On Elizabeth’s profile there is a public post where she attacks Dorit Rubinstien Reiss, a legal expert who regularly discusses the importance of vaccinations as well as public health laws. This attack stemmed from a reply Dorit made under a post on Facebook. Dorit was replying to a claim that vaccinations were tested on Jewish people during WWII. Dorit replied with,
“Not to my knowledge. They denied Jews vaccines. And Jews died from that.”
Elizabeth then made a post on her profile stating,
“Dorit Reiss: Jews died in the holocaust because they weren’t vaccinated…..so many things to say but ill let yall go 1st.”
In these comments featured here, Elizabeth states “I seriously want to fight her,” accuses Dorit of working for “pharama,” accuses Dorit of displaying vaccine injuries, claims that Dorit believes all Americans should be vaccinated by gun point, and then claims to “battle her on Twitter on the daily.” Elizabeth then reveals her obsession with Dorit when she adds,
“Such a long standing relationship I have had loathing this woman. Close to a decade now smh o [I?] just want 5 minutes alone in the dark with her.”
She goes on to accuse Dorit of having “Israel medical under her advisement..”

Under the post itself, Elizabeth also attacked Dorit personally. Ms. Sequoria called Dorit satan, an asshole, a troll, and then tells Dorit,
“You are lucky we have never been in the same room. I would wreck you for harassing mothers this way,”
She then accuses Dorit of genocide and of lying about Jews. I should mention here that Dorit is in fact Jewish and was born in Israel.
  The comment by Dorit that started this all was,
“I am really sorry your baby got sick. It must be so hard.

I do want to point out that the flu shot takes about a week to work. If your baby got sick right after it, it’s likely that the poor little guy had a virus attacking his body before the shot. I hope he gets better fast. I have no doubt it’s a horrible experience.” 
This is the harassment that Elizabeth wants to “wreck” Dorit over.

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This was all I could come across on a few quick searches. I’m sure there are more examples of Elizabeth displaying her true self and attacking those who support vaccinations. If you have had a run in with her and would like to share it with us we would love to hear about it! I have a feeling we haven’t heard the end of Elizabeth Sequoria/Vernon.